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Opting In, Opting Out, Why The Next Election Is Vitally Important

by: Kathy

Tue Oct 27, 2009 at 12:21:50 PM EDT


As Cordelia Lear pointed out yesterday, the opt-out choice that allows states to withdraw from the public option is no panacea. Read what she says about Mike Bishop and Andy Dillon to understand why opt-out is a bad idea, but it's basically because the public option choice will literally be in the hands of lawmakers who don't care about us.  

I originally figured I could live with the opt-out plan because it's loosely modeled on Medicaid, "which originally allowed states to "opt-out" of the program and today enjoys the participation of all 50 states." And, as TPM pointed out, there was good reason to believe that the public option would have been a lot scarier as a GOP straw man than it would as a real world option for people who can't get private coverage.

And if the public option is available in North Carolina, just to pick a hypothetical, and not South Carolina, after a while, people in the South Carolina might start to wonder what the logic was of denying them a lower cost health insurance option. And if that's true, presumably, pressure will build in the opt-out states to opt-in. So even if a substantial number of people aren't covered at the start, there's good reason to believe that will change over time.

There's just one tiny problem with the "presumably, pressure will build to opt-in" scenario. We're dealing with politicians who often put party ideology ahead of people. If pressuring our leaders worked, we would have had health care a long time ago.

And, as Cordelia mentioned, it's not exactly clear who gets to do the opting-out. Will governors be able to unilaterally make that decision or will it take action by both houses of the state legislature? As Jon Walker at FDL pointed out, depending on how the opt-out is written, millions of people in states controlled by Republicans could find themselves disenfranchised.

If a Republican becomes Michigan's next governor, or they manage to pick up any seats, we can kiss opting-in goodbye. Seriously. That makes the next election extremely important because there's just one thing standing between national health care and the 1.13 million uninsured adults in our state - Republicans (and DINO's like Dillon).  

Kathy :: Opting In, Opting Out, Why The Next Election Is Vitally Important
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Doubtful opt-out will be discarded (4.00 / 2)
I meant to add that I don't see opting-opt getting dumped. Too many conservative Dems support the idea, including Jay Rockefeller, Anthony Weiner and Ben Nelson.  

Assuming the opt-out isn't removed, that makes Michigan's next election vitally important. State Republicans are already working to opt-out of the public plan according to this earlier comment by Wizardkitten:

House Joint Resolution CC (Affirm right to independent (non-government) health care )

Introduced by Rep. Brian Calley (R) on September 9, 2009, to place before voters in the next general election a Constitutional amendment to recognize that "every person has a right to provide for his or her own health care," and to prohibit any state law or rule that would directly or indirectly "compel any person, employer, or health care provider to participate in any health care system".

Senate Joint Resolution K (Affirm right to independent (non-government) health care )

Introduced by Sen. Wayne Kuipers (R) on August 27, 2009, to place before voters in the next general election a Constitutional amendment to recognize that "every person has a right to provide for his or her own health care," and to prohibit any state law or rule that would directly or indirectly "compel any person, employer, or health care provider to participate in any health care system".

From Michigan Votes

They're preemptively blocking public health care before it even gets passed! Voting every single Republican out of office is the only way to block these cold, hardhearted, mean-spirited people.  


Just a few weeks ago (4.00 / 2)
pundits and Congresscrittters were declaring the public option dead. It rose from the ashes.

I'm not giving up hope yet.

Disobedience, in the eyes of anyone who has read history, is man's original virtue. It is through disobedience and rebellion that progress has been made. --- Oscar Wilde, The Soul of Man Under Socialism


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Here's another (4.00 / 2)
Our legislature is filled to the brim with wingnuts.

House Resolution 172

Introduced by Rep. Dave Hildenbrand (R) on October 20, 2009, to memorialize Congress to reject proposals instituting new federal review, oversight, or preemption of state health insurance laws, creating a federal health insurance exchange or connector, and creating a federal health insurance plan or so-called public plan option.

http://www.michiganvotes.org/Legislation.aspx?ID=101195

Whatever Dave.

Introducing this stuff is a big waste of time and paperwork, but I guess they need to be "on record" when they stick out their hands for campaign money.


[ Parent ]
We need to add (4.00 / 1)
The Tenther Resolution to out list.

Each wing nut trying to out wing nut the guy next to him.

No siree. Ain't no Washington politician gonna tell us how we run our state. No siree.

Disobedience, in the eyes of anyone who has read history, is man's original virtue. It is through disobedience and rebellion that progress has been made. --- Oscar Wilde, The Soul of Man Under Socialism


[ Parent ]
s/b our list (0.00 / 0)
that'll teach me not to use preview.

Disobedience, in the eyes of anyone who has read history, is man's original virtue. It is through disobedience and rebellion that progress has been made. --- Oscar Wilde, The Soul of Man Under Socialism

[ Parent ]
No siree (4.00 / 2)
But something tells me these same wingnuts won't turn down social security or Medicare when it comes time for them to collect.

Hypocrites, the whole lot of them.  


[ Parent ]
In 1965 (4.00 / 2)
when Medicare and Medicaid were introduced the political climate was much different. Republicans just didn't vote no on everything. Legislators made compromises. That doesn't happen today.

Kathy is right, opt-out places your health care in the hands of people who don't care about you.  

Disobedience, in the eyes of anyone who has read history, is man's original virtue. It is through disobedience and rebellion that progress has been made. --- Oscar Wilde, The Soul of Man Under Socialism


It's not over until the fat lady sings (4.00 / 1)


Disobedience, in the eyes of anyone who has read history, is man's original virtue. It is through disobedience and rebellion that progress has been made. --- Oscar Wilde, The Soul of Man Under Socialism

I'd like to see them try it. (4.00 / 2)
Please, MIGOP, explain to the citizens of Michigan why we need to be paying tax dollars for a program that YOU won't even let us use!

A voice in my head tells me not to be so mean to the conservatives.  I work very hard to ignore that voice.



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